[rancid] Brocade TurboIron24

Discussion:

Pedrosi, Derek G.

2015-07-31 18:11:25 UTC

Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade's TI24s in my environment. I would like to intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?

Many thanx,
derek

Nick Hilliard

2015-08-02 13:15:23 UTC

Permalink

These are type: "foundry".

7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.

Nick

Sent from my iWotsit.

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocadeâs TI24s in my environment. I would like to intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
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Nick Hilliard

2015-08-03 14:28:54 UTC

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Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.

Nick

Sent from my iWotsit.

Iâve tried that to no successâŠ
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded thisâŠ
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with âcloginâ it works as it should.
BUT, if in my ârouter.dbâ I set the type to âciscoâ (which I assume means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com: found unexpected command - "dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com: missed cmd(s): dir /all slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocadeâs TI24s in my environment. I would like to intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
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Pedrosi, Derek G.

2015-08-03 14:42:42 UTC

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My sanitized .cloginrc:

***@rancid:/var/lib/rancid# head -50 .cloginrc
#XXXX

add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1

add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0

________________________________
Derek G Pedrosi | Manager of Technology Infrastructure
Miller Canfield
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)

________________________________

From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:***@foobar.org]
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
To: Pedrosi, Derek G.
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24

Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.

Nick

Sent from my iWotsit.

On 3 Aug 2015, at 14:59, Pedrosi, Derek G. <***@millercanfield.com<mailto:***@millercanfield.com>> wrote:

Iâve tried that to no successâŠ

The bit of debugging that I can do yielded thisâŠ

***@rancid:/usr/lib/rancid/bin# flogin -t 300 -c "show version;show chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3

10.1.1.3

spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3

***@10.1.1.3<mailto:***@10.1.1.3>'s password:

***@DC-TurboIron2#

Error: TIMEOUT reached

***@rancid:/usr/lib/rancid/bin#

Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?

BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with âcloginâ it works as it should.

BUT, if in my ârouter.dbâ I set the type to âciscoâ (which I assume means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is blank.

Trying to get all of the configs.

dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: found unexpected command - "dir /all sup-bootflash:"

dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all sec-bootflash:,sho$

dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: End of run not found

=====================================

Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j

Many thanks,

derek

From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:***@foobar.org]

Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM

To: Pedrosi, Derek G. <***@millercanfield.com<mailto:***@millercanfield.com>>

Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>

Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24

These are type: "foundry".

7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.

Nick

Sent from my iWotsit.

On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G. <***@millercanfield.com<mailto:***@millercanfield.com>> wrote:

Greetings all,

I have a few of Brocadeâs TI24s in my environment. I would like to intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?

Many thanx,

derek

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Alan McKinnon

2015-08-03 19:20:22 UTC

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I'd like to check we're all on the same page with regard to autoenable,
it's a topic that seems to cause much confusion.

It's used when the device enables that user automatically on login with
no need to explicitly run the enable command.

Are all your devices (with the exception of
DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com) set up to behave like that?

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
#XXXX
add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1
add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Derek G Pedrosi*| Manager of Technology Infrastructure
*Miller Canfield*
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
*To:* Pedrosi, Derek G.
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
I’ve tried that to no success…
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded this…
chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with
“clogin” it works as it should.
BUT, if in my “router.db” I set the type to “cisco” (which I assume
means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is
blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: found unexpected command -
"dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all
slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all
sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade’s TI24s in my environment. I would like to
intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had
any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
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Alan McKinnon

2015-08-03 19:47:31 UTC

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OK. In that case your cloginrc is correct.

Looking back over the thread, I think you have a simple problem of the
wrong device type in router.db

Cisco kit is generally of type "cisco" and Brocades of type "foundry".
With rancid-2.3.x the separator in that file is ":"
With rancid-3.x the separator is ";"
This change was made for excellent reasons but has caused much pain and
misery :-) Do make sure your router.db is using the correct syntax for
your rancid version.

I see "unexpected command" errors in your previous posts, that should
not happen. I've only seen that when I run the generic cisco script
against a Nexus (those use nxrancid)

On to which helper script is used for what (there's a LOT of legacy
naming issues here, one of the goals of rancid-3 is to fix this).

rancid-run launches rancid-fe which reads router.db and launches a
"parser script" (my term) for each device to do the heavy lifting.

Originally long ago there was only one parser as Cisco was the only
thing out there and the parser was called "rancid". As new types were
added the parsers were named <something>rancid. So with 2.3.x you have
the odd situation where the main parser (Cisco) is called "rancid" but
Foundry is "francid". It's a naming quirk.

I believe heasley has renamed that parser in v3 to follow convention.

clogin is the expect script to do logins and many things use it, not
just the Cisco parser. All it needs to do is log in with user/pass,
enable if necessary, detect the prompt and issue all required commands.
All of this info, including the actual login script to use for a type,
is in the parser script. So it's one more oddity, you might have a type
"XYZ" with it's own peculiar commands and output so it's parser is
xyzrancid. But login works much like cisco (which really is a classic
telnet login) so xyz uses clogin![1]

To debug a given device, you have to run the correct parser manually.
Look up your type in rancid-fe (it's a large hashmap near the top) and
run that script on the device with the -d option.
You will get debug output including the *login command used.
Paste that into your terminal (it's often clogin but not always) and
look carefully at what your device is returning.

Or post the output so we can help further.

[1] I'm used to all this real-life weirdness as I've used rancid so much
I don't think much about it anymore. It's only when I type mails like
this that I realise just how nuts the field of a netadmin has become :-)

Yes.
When I manually logon to my devices (Cisco and Brocade) with said service account I am dropped into an admin command prompt (#).
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
I'd like to check we're all on the same page with regard to autoenable, it's a topic that seems to cause much confusion.
It's used when the device enables that user automatically on login with no need to explicitly run the enable command.
Are all your devices (with the exception of
DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com) set up to behave like that?

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
#XXXX
add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1
add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
*Derek G Pedrosi*| Manager of Technology Infrastructure
*Miller Canfield*
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
*Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
*To:* Pedrosi, Derek G.
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
I've tried that to no success...
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded this...
chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with
"clogin" it works as it should.
BUT, if in my "router.db" I set the type to "cisco" (which I assume
means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is
blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: found unexpected command -
"dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all
slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all
sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all
sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade's TI24s in my environment. I would like to
intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had
any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
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Pedrosi, Derek G.

2015-08-04 16:03:26 UTC

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OK,
From the "rancid-fe" file, it looks like I'm running Rancid 2.3.8.
The switches SNMP OS string is "Brocade FastIron/IronWare 08.0.01eT201", but I know these switches are based on Brocade's Foundry acquisition. So I will run francid.

Here is the output...

***@rancid:/var/lib/rancid/bin# francid -d DC-TurboIron2.network.XXX.com
executing flogin -t 90 -c"show version;show chassis;show module;show flash;write term;show running-config" DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found 0 || 0
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found
!
***@rancid:/var/lib/rancid/bin#

I am able to SSH the device without issue from the rancid box using the rancid credentials.
And my router.db is correct, listed as " DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com:foundry:up'

Thank you for your assistance.

derek

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:48 PM
To: Pedrosi, Derek G.; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24

OK. In that case your cloginrc is correct.

Looking back over the thread, I think you have a simple problem of the wrong device type in router.db

Cisco kit is generally of type "cisco" and Brocades of type "foundry".
With rancid-2.3.x the separator in that file is ":"
With rancid-3.x the separator is ";"
This change was made for excellent reasons but has caused much pain and misery :-) Do make sure your router.db is using the correct syntax for your rancid version.

I see "unexpected command" errors in your previous posts, that should not happen. I've only seen that when I run the generic cisco script against a Nexus (those use nxrancid)

On to which helper script is used for what (there's a LOT of legacy naming issues here, one of the goals of rancid-3 is to fix this).

rancid-run launches rancid-fe which reads router.db and launches a "parser script" (my term) for each device to do the heavy lifting.

Originally long ago there was only one parser as Cisco was the only thing out there and the parser was called "rancid". As new types were added the parsers were named <something>rancid. So with 2.3.x you have the odd situation where the main parser (Cisco) is called "rancid" but Foundry is "francid". It's a naming quirk.

I believe heasley has renamed that parser in v3 to follow convention.

clogin is the expect script to do logins and many things use it, not just the Cisco parser. All it needs to do is log in with user/pass, enable if necessary, detect the prompt and issue all required commands.
All of this info, including the actual login script to use for a type, is in the parser script. So it's one more oddity, you might have a type "XYZ" with it's own peculiar commands and output so it's parser is xyzrancid. But login works much like cisco (which really is a classic telnet login) so xyz uses clogin![1]

To debug a given device, you have to run the correct parser manually.
Look up your type in rancid-fe (it's a large hashmap near the top) and run that script on the device with the -d option.
You will get debug output including the *login command used.
Paste that into your terminal (it's often clogin but not always) and look carefully at what your device is returning.

Or post the output so we can help further.

[1] I'm used to all this real-life weirdness as I've used rancid so much I don't think much about it anymore. It's only when I type mails like this that I realise just how nuts the field of a netadmin has become :-)

Yes.
When I manually logon to my devices (Cisco and Brocade) with said service account I am dropped into an admin command prompt (#).
derek
-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of Alan McKinnon
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
I'd like to check we're all on the same page with regard to autoenable, it's a topic that seems to cause much confusion.
It's used when the device enables that user automatically on login with no need to explicitly run the enable command.
Are all your devices (with the exception of
DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com) set up to behave like that?

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
#XXXX
add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1
add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0
---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
--
*Derek G Pedrosi*| Manager of Technology Infrastructure
*Miller Canfield*
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
--
*Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
*To:* Pedrosi, Derek G.
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 3 Aug 2015, at 14:59, Pedrosi, Derek G.
I've tried that to no success...
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded this...
chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with
"clogin" it works as it should.
BUT, if in my "router.db" I set the type to "cisco" (which I assume
means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is
blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: found unexpected command -
"dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all
slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all
sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all
sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade's TI24s in my environment. I would like to
intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had
any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
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Alan McKinnon

2015-08-05 14:09:56 UTC

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According to the various scripts, flogin is the correct usage, but it's
failing to return successfully (looks like it waits 90 seconds then
times out).

We need to find why flogin does not work for you.

What happens when you run these commands:

flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
clogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
OK,
From the "rancid-fe" file, it looks like I'm running Rancid 2.3.8.
The switches SNMP OS string is "Brocade FastIron/IronWare 08.0.01eT201", but I know these switches are based on Brocade's Foundry acquisition. So I will run francid.
Here is the output...
executing flogin -t 90 -c"show version;show chassis;show module;show flash;write term;show running-config" DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found 0 || 0
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found
!
I am able to SSH the device without issue from the rancid box using the rancid credentials.
And my router.db is correct, listed as " DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com:foundry:up'
Thank you for your assistance.
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
OK. In that case your cloginrc is correct.
Looking back over the thread, I think you have a simple problem of the wrong device type in router.db
Cisco kit is generally of type "cisco" and Brocades of type "foundry".
With rancid-2.3.x the separator in that file is ":"
With rancid-3.x the separator is ";"
This change was made for excellent reasons but has caused much pain and misery :-) Do make sure your router.db is using the correct syntax for your rancid version.
I see "unexpected command" errors in your previous posts, that should not happen. I've only seen that when I run the generic cisco script against a Nexus (those use nxrancid)
On to which helper script is used for what (there's a LOT of legacy naming issues here, one of the goals of rancid-3 is to fix this).
rancid-run launches rancid-fe which reads router.db and launches a "parser script" (my term) for each device to do the heavy lifting.
Originally long ago there was only one parser as Cisco was the only thing out there and the parser was called "rancid". As new types were added the parsers were named <something>rancid. So with 2.3.x you have the odd situation where the main parser (Cisco) is called "rancid" but Foundry is "francid". It's a naming quirk.
I believe heasley has renamed that parser in v3 to follow convention.
clogin is the expect script to do logins and many things use it, not just the Cisco parser. All it needs to do is log in with user/pass, enable if necessary, detect the prompt and issue all required commands.
All of this info, including the actual login script to use for a type, is in the parser script. So it's one more oddity, you might have a type "XYZ" with it's own peculiar commands and output so it's parser is xyzrancid. But login works much like cisco (which really is a classic telnet login) so xyz uses clogin![1]
To debug a given device, you have to run the correct parser manually.
Look up your type in rancid-fe (it's a large hashmap near the top) and run that script on the device with the -d option.
You will get debug output including the *login command used.
Paste that into your terminal (it's often clogin but not always) and look carefully at what your device is returning.
Or post the output so we can help further.
[1] I'm used to all this real-life weirdness as I've used rancid so much I don't think much about it anymore. It's only when I type mails like this that I realise just how nuts the field of a netadmin has become :-)

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
#XXXX
add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1
add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0
---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
--
*Derek G Pedrosi*| Manager of Technology Infrastructure
*Miller Canfield*
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
--
*Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
*To:* Pedrosi, Derek G.
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 3 Aug 2015, at 14:59, Pedrosi, Derek G.
I've tried that to no success...
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded this...
chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with
"clogin" it works as it should.
BUT, if in my "router.db" I set the type to "cisco" (which I assume
means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is
blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: found unexpected command -
"dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all
slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all
sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all
sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.mcps.com>: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade's TI24s in my environment. I would like to
intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had
any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
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Pedrosi, Derek G.

2015-08-05 15:40:22 UTC

Permalink

Help me rancid mailing list, you are my only hope...

___________________________________________________________
flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
***@dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com's password:
***@DC-TurboIron2#
Error: TIMEOUT reached
***@rancid:/var/lib/rancid#
___________________________________________________________
clogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
***@dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com's password:
***@DC-TurboIron2#
It seems to just hang here forever....
___________________________________________________________
But, if I try...
flogin -t 30 -c "show version;show flash" dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
***@dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com's password:
***@DC-TurboIron2#
Error: TIMEOUT reached
___________________________________________________________

clogin -t 30 -c "show version;show flash" dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
***@dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com's password:
***@DC-TurboIron2#
***@DC-TurboIron2#terminal length 0
Invalid input -> terminal length 0
Type ? for a list
***@DC-TurboIron2#terminal width 132
Invalid input -> terminal width 132
Type ? for a list
***@DC-TurboIron2#show version
SW: Version x.x.xxx Copyright (c) 1996-2013 Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Compiled on xxx xxxxx
(xxxxx bytes) from Primary
Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size = 369366, Version:xxxxx
HW: Stackable TurboIron-X24
==========================================================================
Serial #: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
P-ASIC 0: type B820, rev 11 subrev 00
==========================================================================
825 MHz Power PC processor MPC8541E (version 8020/0020) 330 MHz bus
512 KB boot flash memory
31744 KB code flash memory
512 MB DRAM
The system uptime is 4 days 12 hours 24 minutes 55 seconds
The system started at 23:04:36 Eastern Fri Jul 31 2015

The system : started=warm start reloaded=by "reload"

***@DC-TurboIron2#show flash
Compressed Pri Code size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Compressed Sec Code size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Code Flash Free Space = 20447232

BEST regards,
derek

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:10 AM
To: Pedrosi, Derek G.; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24

According to the various scripts, flogin is the correct usage, but it's failing to return successfully (looks like it waits 90 seconds then times out).

We need to find why flogin does not work for you.

What happens when you run these commands:

flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
clogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
OK,
From the "rancid-fe" file, it looks like I'm running Rancid 2.3.8.
The switches SNMP OS string is "Brocade FastIron/IronWare 08.0.01eT201", but I know these switches are based on Brocade's Foundry acquisition. So I will run francid.
Here is the output...
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXX.com executing flogin -t 90 -c"show
version;show chassis;show module;show flash;write term;show
running-config" DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show
module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show
module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found 0 || 0
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found !
I am able to SSH the device without issue from the rancid box using the rancid credentials.
And my router.db is correct, listed as " DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com:foundry:up'
Thank you for your assistance.
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
OK. In that case your cloginrc is correct.
Looking back over the thread, I think you have a simple problem of the
wrong device type in router.db
Cisco kit is generally of type "cisco" and Brocades of type "foundry".
With rancid-2.3.x the separator in that file is ":"
With rancid-3.x the separator is ";"
This change was made for excellent reasons but has caused much pain and misery :-) Do make sure your router.db is using the correct syntax for your rancid version.
I see "unexpected command" errors in your previous posts, that should
not happen. I've only seen that when I run the generic cisco script
against a Nexus (those use nxrancid)
On to which helper script is used for what (there's a LOT of legacy naming issues here, one of the goals of rancid-3 is to fix this).
rancid-run launches rancid-fe which reads router.db and launches a "parser script" (my term) for each device to do the heavy lifting.
Originally long ago there was only one parser as Cisco was the only thing out there and the parser was called "rancid". As new types were added the parsers were named <something>rancid. So with 2.3.x you have the odd situation where the main parser (Cisco) is called "rancid" but Foundry is "francid". It's a naming quirk.
I believe heasley has renamed that parser in v3 to follow convention.
clogin is the expect script to do logins and many things use it, not just the Cisco parser. All it needs to do is log in with user/pass, enable if necessary, detect the prompt and issue all required commands.
All of this info, including the actual login script to use for a type,
is in the parser script. So it's one more oddity, you might have a
type "XYZ" with it's own peculiar commands and output so it's parser
is xyzrancid. But login works much like cisco (which really is a
classic telnet login) so xyz uses clogin![1]
To debug a given device, you have to run the correct parser manually.
Look up your type in rancid-fe (it's a large hashmap near the top) and run that script on the device with the -d option.
You will get debug output including the *login command used.
Paste that into your terminal (it's often clogin but not always) and look carefully at what your device is returning.
Or post the output so we can help further.
[1] I'm used to all this real-life weirdness as I've used rancid so
much I don't think much about it anymore. It's only when I type mails
like this that I realise just how nuts the field of a netadmin has
become :-)

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
#XXXX
add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1
add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
--
*Derek G Pedrosi*| Manager of Technology Infrastructure
*Miller Canfield*
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
--
*Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
*To:* Pedrosi, Derek G.
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 3 Aug 2015, at 14:59, Pedrosi, Derek G.
I've tried that to no success...
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded this...
chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with
"clogin" it works as it should.
BUT, if in my "router.db" I set the type to "cisco" (which I assume
means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is
blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: found unexpected command -
"dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all
slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all
sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all
sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade's TI24s in my environment. I would like to
intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had
any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
_______________________________________________
Rancid-discuss mailing list
http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo/rancid-discuss
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--
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Alan McKinnon

2015-08-05 18:28:27 UTC

Permalink

How odd. ssh was launched 4 times and only the last time worked (clogin
using ssh -c).

I'm not willing just yet to say that flogin doesn't work on your
devices, I have a hunch that the 4th command just happened to work, and
that ssh is erratic for you. I've heard occasional reports where this
causes issues between linux distros, and my spidey sense is still on
alert about it :-)

There have been changes in ssh recently, mostly dropping and deprecating
old crypto methods. It could be that ssh on your rancid server is not
properly compatible with your device and it works sometimes.

If you are willing, the following test would be useful:

Run flogin and clogin, both with and without "-t 30 -c "show
version;show flash" " (plus plain ssh to the device) multiple times,
around 10-20 each. See if there's a pattern of some kind. Once we get
ssh working reliably, then we can move onto which parser script to use.

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
Help me rancid mailing list, you are my only hope...
___________________________________________________________
flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
Error: TIMEOUT reached
___________________________________________________________
clogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
It seems to just hang here forever....
___________________________________________________________
But, if I try...
flogin -t 30 -c "show version;show flash" dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
Error: TIMEOUT reached
___________________________________________________________
clogin -t 30 -c "show version;show flash" dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
Invalid input -> terminal length 0
Type ? for a list
Invalid input -> terminal width 132
Type ? for a list
SW: Version x.x.xxx Copyright (c) 1996-2013 Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Compiled on xxx xxxxx
(xxxxx bytes) from Primary
Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size = 369366, Version:xxxxx
HW: Stackable TurboIron-X24
==========================================================================
Serial #: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
P-ASIC 0: type B820, rev 11 subrev 00
==========================================================================
825 MHz Power PC processor MPC8541E (version 8020/0020) 330 MHz bus
512 KB boot flash memory
31744 KB code flash memory
512 MB DRAM
The system uptime is 4 days 12 hours 24 minutes 55 seconds
The system started at 23:04:36 Eastern Fri Jul 31 2015
The system : started=warm start reloaded=by "reload"
Compressed Pri Code size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Compressed Sec Code size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Code Flash Free Space = 20447232
BEST regards,
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
According to the various scripts, flogin is the correct usage, but it's failing to return successfully (looks like it waits 90 seconds then times out).
We need to find why flogin does not work for you.
flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
clogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
OK,
From the "rancid-fe" file, it looks like I'm running Rancid 2.3.8.
The switches SNMP OS string is "Brocade FastIron/IronWare 08.0.01eT201", but I know these switches are based on Brocade's Foundry acquisition. So I will run francid.
Here is the output...
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXX.com executing flogin -t 90 -c"show
version;show chassis;show module;show flash;write term;show
running-config" DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show
module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show
module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found 0 || 0
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found !
I am able to SSH the device without issue from the rancid box using the rancid credentials.
And my router.db is correct, listed as " DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com:foundry:up'
Thank you for your assistance.
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
OK. In that case your cloginrc is correct.
Looking back over the thread, I think you have a simple problem of the
wrong device type in router.db
Cisco kit is generally of type "cisco" and Brocades of type "foundry".
With rancid-2.3.x the separator in that file is ":"
With rancid-3.x the separator is ";"
This change was made for excellent reasons but has caused much pain and misery :-) Do make sure your router.db is using the correct syntax for your rancid version.
I see "unexpected command" errors in your previous posts, that should
not happen. I've only seen that when I run the generic cisco script
against a Nexus (those use nxrancid)
On to which helper script is used for what (there's a LOT of legacy naming issues here, one of the goals of rancid-3 is to fix this).
rancid-run launches rancid-fe which reads router.db and launches a "parser script" (my term) for each device to do the heavy lifting.
Originally long ago there was only one parser as Cisco was the only thing out there and the parser was called "rancid". As new types were added the parsers were named <something>rancid. So with 2.3.x you have the odd situation where the main parser (Cisco) is called "rancid" but Foundry is "francid". It's a naming quirk.
I believe heasley has renamed that parser in v3 to follow convention.
clogin is the expect script to do logins and many things use it, not just the Cisco parser. All it needs to do is log in with user/pass, enable if necessary, detect the prompt and issue all required commands.
All of this info, including the actual login script to use for a type,
is in the parser script. So it's one more oddity, you might have a
type "XYZ" with it's own peculiar commands and output so it's parser
is xyzrancid. But login works much like cisco (which really is a
classic telnet login) so xyz uses clogin![1]
To debug a given device, you have to run the correct parser manually.
Look up your type in rancid-fe (it's a large hashmap near the top) and run that script on the device with the -d option.
You will get debug output including the *login command used.
Paste that into your terminal (it's often clogin but not always) and look carefully at what your device is returning.
Or post the output so we can help further.
[1] I'm used to all this real-life weirdness as I've used rancid so
much I don't think much about it anymore. It's only when I type mails
like this that I realise just how nuts the field of a netadmin has
become :-)

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
#XXXX
add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1
add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
--
*Derek G Pedrosi*| Manager of Technology Infrastructure
*Miller Canfield*
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
--
*Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
*To:* Pedrosi, Derek G.
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 3 Aug 2015, at 14:59, Pedrosi, Derek G.
I've tried that to no success...
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded this...
chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with
"clogin" it works as it should.
BUT, if in my "router.db" I set the type to "cisco" (which I assume
means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is
blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: found unexpected command -
"dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all
slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all
sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all
sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade's TI24s in my environment. I would like to
intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had
any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
_______________________________________________
Rancid-discuss mailing list
http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo/rancid-discuss
_______________________________________________
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http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo/rancid-discuss

--
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_______________________________________________
Rancid-discuss mailing list
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--
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--
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***@gmail.com

Alan McKinnon

2015-08-05 20:27:33 UTC

Permalink

Ah, that is significant. After all that, we may have overlooked an error
in .cloginrc.

What does yours look like? Is the 4th entry still

add autoenable 1

if so, it needs to be

add autoenable * 1

and the following line for DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com needs to be
before, not after.

.cloginrc is not processed as best match wins, it is first match wins.
So * is a default and goes at the end of the list.

If you have corrected .cloginrc already, then you have a faulty rancid
install. Un-install it, verify all code is gone and your local files are
intact, the reinstall. If that doesn't fix it, then your distro has
given you an unsuitable dependant code package, quite likely expect.

I'm afraid that SSH is quite operational...
SSH seems to be working just fine. All of my Cisco gear (50+ devices) have no issues, moreover when I SSH from the CLI to the Brocades using my rancid credentials I have no issue (works everytime).
Something else interesting, is that I spun up a new install of 2.3.8 (same version as my production) and flogin works as expexted! So I copied the "working" flogin and to my production server, but no luck. Same results with error TIMEOUT. Does this shine any light on all of this?
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
How odd. ssh was launched 4 times and only the last time worked (clogin using ssh -c).
I'm not willing just yet to say that flogin doesn't work on your devices, I have a hunch that the 4th command just happened to work, and that ssh is erratic for you. I've heard occasional reports where this causes issues between linux distros, and my spidey sense is still on alert about it :-)
There have been changes in ssh recently, mostly dropping and deprecating old crypto methods. It could be that ssh on your rancid server is not properly compatible with your device and it works sometimes.
Run flogin and clogin, both with and without "-t 30 -c "show version;show flash" " (plus plain ssh to the device) multiple times, around 10-20 each. See if there's a pattern of some kind. Once we get ssh working reliably, then we can move onto which parser script to use.

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
Help me rancid mailing list, you are my only hope...
___________________________________________________________
flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
Error: TIMEOUT reached
___________________________________________________________
clogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
It seems to just hang here forever....
___________________________________________________________
But, if I try...
flogin -t 30 -c "show version;show flash"
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid
Error: TIMEOUT reached
___________________________________________________________
clogin -t 30 -c "show version;show flash"
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com spawn
ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
Invalid input -> terminal length 0
Type ? for a list
Invalid input -> terminal width 132
Type ? for a list
SW: Version x.x.xxx Copyright (c) 1996-2013 Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Compiled on xxx xxxxx
(xxxxx bytes) from Primary
Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size = 369366, Version:xxxxx
HW: Stackable TurboIron-X24
==========================================================================
Serial #: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
P-ASIC 0: type B820, rev 11 subrev 00
==========================================================================
825 MHz Power PC processor MPC8541E (version 8020/0020) 330 MHz bus
512 KB boot flash memory
31744 KB code flash memory
512 MB DRAM
The system uptime is 4 days 12 hours 24 minutes 55 seconds The system
started at 23:04:36 Eastern Fri Jul 31 2015
The system : started=warm start reloaded=by "reload"
Compressed Pri Code size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Compressed Sec Code
size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size =
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Code Flash Free Space = 20447232
BEST regards,
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
According to the various scripts, flogin is the correct usage, but it's failing to return successfully (looks like it waits 90 seconds then times out).
We need to find why flogin does not work for you.
flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
clogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
OK,
From the "rancid-fe" file, it looks like I'm running Rancid 2.3.8.
The switches SNMP OS string is "Brocade FastIron/IronWare 08.0.01eT201", but I know these switches are based on Brocade's Foundry acquisition. So I will run francid.
Here is the output...
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXX.com executing flogin -t 90 -c"show
version;show chassis;show module;show flash;write term;show
running-config" DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show
module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show
module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found 0 || 0
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found !
I am able to SSH the device without issue from the rancid box using the rancid credentials.
And my router.db is correct, listed as " DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com:foundry:up'
Thank you for your assistance.
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
OK. In that case your cloginrc is correct.
Looking back over the thread, I think you have a simple problem of
the wrong device type in router.db
Cisco kit is generally of type "cisco" and Brocades of type "foundry".
With rancid-2.3.x the separator in that file is ":"
With rancid-3.x the separator is ";"
This change was made for excellent reasons but has caused much pain and misery :-) Do make sure your router.db is using the correct syntax for your rancid version.
I see "unexpected command" errors in your previous posts, that should
not happen. I've only seen that when I run the generic cisco script
against a Nexus (those use nxrancid)
On to which helper script is used for what (there's a LOT of legacy naming issues here, one of the goals of rancid-3 is to fix this).
rancid-run launches rancid-fe which reads router.db and launches a "parser script" (my term) for each device to do the heavy lifting.
Originally long ago there was only one parser as Cisco was the only thing out there and the parser was called "rancid". As new types were added the parsers were named <something>rancid. So with 2.3.x you have the odd situation where the main parser (Cisco) is called "rancid" but Foundry is "francid". It's a naming quirk.
I believe heasley has renamed that parser in v3 to follow convention.
clogin is the expect script to do logins and many things use it, not just the Cisco parser. All it needs to do is log in with user/pass, enable if necessary, detect the prompt and issue all required commands.
All of this info, including the actual login script to use for a
type, is in the parser script. So it's one more oddity, you might
have a type "XYZ" with it's own peculiar commands and output so it's
parser is xyzrancid. But login works much like cisco (which really is
a classic telnet login) so xyz uses clogin![1]
To debug a given device, you have to run the correct parser manually.
Look up your type in rancid-fe (it's a large hashmap near the top) and run that script on the device with the -d option.
You will get debug output including the *login command used.
Paste that into your terminal (it's often clogin but not always) and look carefully at what your device is returning.
Or post the output so we can help further.
[1] I'm used to all this real-life weirdness as I've used rancid so
much I don't think much about it anymore. It's only when I type mails
like this that I realise just how nuts the field of a netadmin has
become :-)

Yes.
When I manually logon to my devices (Cisco and Brocade) with said service account I am dropped into an admin command prompt (#).
derek
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Alan McKinnon
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
I'd like to check we're all on the same page with regard to autoenable, it's a topic that seems to cause much confusion.
It's used when the device enables that user automatically on login with no need to explicitly run the enable command.
Are all your devices (with the exception of
DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com) set up to behave like that?

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
#XXXX
add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1
add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0
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*Derek G Pedrosi*| Manager of Technology Infrastructure
*Miller Canfield*
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
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*Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
*To:* Pedrosi, Derek G.
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 3 Aug 2015, at 14:59, Pedrosi, Derek G.
I've tried that to no success...
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded this...
chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with
"clogin" it works as it should.
BUT, if in my "router.db" I set the type to "cisco" (which I assume
means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is
blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: found unexpected command -
"dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all
slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all
sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all
sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade's TI24s in my environment. I would like to
intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had
any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
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Pedrosi, Derek G.

2015-08-05 20:57:22 UTC

Permalink

BINGO.
add autoenable * 1

That was it, a silly * in the .cloginrc file

Many, many thanks.
derek

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 4:28 PM
To: Pedrosi, Derek G.; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24

Ah, that is significant. After all that, we may have overlooked an error in .cloginrc.

What does yours look like? Is the 4th entry still

add autoenable 1

if so, it needs to be

add autoenable * 1

and the following line for DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com needs to be before, not after.

.cloginrc is not processed as best match wins, it is first match wins.
So * is a default and goes at the end of the list.

If you have corrected .cloginrc already, then you have a faulty rancid install. Un-install it, verify all code is gone and your local files are intact, the reinstall. If that doesn't fix it, then your distro has given you an unsuitable dependant code package, quite likely expect.

I'm afraid that SSH is quite operational...
SSH seems to be working just fine. All of my Cisco gear (50+ devices) have no issues, moreover when I SSH from the CLI to the Brocades using my rancid credentials I have no issue (works everytime).
Something else interesting, is that I spun up a new install of 2.3.8 (same version as my production) and flogin works as expexted! So I copied the "working" flogin and to my production server, but no luck. Same results with error TIMEOUT. Does this shine any light on all of this?
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
How odd. ssh was launched 4 times and only the last time worked (clogin using ssh -c).
I'm not willing just yet to say that flogin doesn't work on your
devices, I have a hunch that the 4th command just happened to work,
and that ssh is erratic for you. I've heard occasional reports where
this causes issues between linux distros, and my spidey sense is still
on alert about it :-)
There have been changes in ssh recently, mostly dropping and deprecating old crypto methods. It could be that ssh on your rancid server is not properly compatible with your device and it works sometimes.
Run flogin and clogin, both with and without "-t 30 -c "show version;show flash" " (plus plain ssh to the device) multiple times, around 10-20 each. See if there's a pattern of some kind. Once we get ssh working reliably, then we can move onto which parser script to use.

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
Help me rancid mailing list, you are my only hope...
___________________________________________________________
flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
Error: TIMEOUT reached
___________________________________________________________
clogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
It seems to just hang here forever....
___________________________________________________________
But, if I try...
flogin -t 30 -c "show version;show flash"
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid
Error: TIMEOUT reached
___________________________________________________________
clogin -t 30 -c "show version;show flash"
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com spawn
ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
Invalid input -> terminal length 0
Type ? for a list
Invalid input -> terminal width 132
Type ? for a list
SW: Version x.x.xxx Copyright (c) 1996-2013 Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Compiled on xxx xxxxx
(xxxxx bytes) from Primary
Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size = 369366, Version:xxxxx
HW: Stackable TurboIron-X24
==========================================================================
Serial #: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
P-ASIC 0: type B820, rev 11 subrev 00
==========================================================================
825 MHz Power PC processor MPC8541E (version 8020/0020) 330 MHz bus
512 KB boot flash memory
31744 KB code flash memory
512 MB DRAM
The system uptime is 4 days 12 hours 24 minutes 55 seconds The system
started at 23:04:36 Eastern Fri Jul 31 2015
The system : started=warm start reloaded=by "reload"
Compressed Pri Code size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Compressed Sec Code
size = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size =
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Code Flash Free Space = 20447232
BEST regards,
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
According to the various scripts, flogin is the correct usage, but it's failing to return successfully (looks like it waits 90 seconds then times out).
We need to find why flogin does not work for you.
flogin DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com clogin
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
OK,
From the "rancid-fe" file, it looks like I'm running Rancid 2.3.8.
The switches SNMP OS string is "Brocade FastIron/IronWare 08.0.01eT201", but I know these switches are based on Brocade's Foundry acquisition. So I will run francid.
Here is the output...
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXX.com executing flogin -t 90 -c"show
version;show chassis;show module;show flash;write term;show
running-config" DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com flogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show
module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: missed cmd(s): show chassis,show
module,show flash,show version,show running-config,write term
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found 0 || 0
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found
DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com: End of run not found !
I am able to SSH the device without issue from the rancid box using the rancid credentials.
And my router.db is correct, listed as " DC-TurboIron2.network.XXXX.com:foundry:up'
Thank you for your assistance.
derek
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
OK. In that case your cloginrc is correct.
Looking back over the thread, I think you have a simple problem of
the wrong device type in router.db
Cisco kit is generally of type "cisco" and Brocades of type "foundry".
With rancid-2.3.x the separator in that file is ":"
With rancid-3.x the separator is ";"
This change was made for excellent reasons but has caused much pain and misery :-) Do make sure your router.db is using the correct syntax for your rancid version.
I see "unexpected command" errors in your previous posts, that
should not happen. I've only seen that when I run the generic cisco
script against a Nexus (those use nxrancid)
On to which helper script is used for what (there's a LOT of legacy naming issues here, one of the goals of rancid-3 is to fix this).
rancid-run launches rancid-fe which reads router.db and launches a "parser script" (my term) for each device to do the heavy lifting.
Originally long ago there was only one parser as Cisco was the only thing out there and the parser was called "rancid". As new types were added the parsers were named <something>rancid. So with 2.3.x you have the odd situation where the main parser (Cisco) is called "rancid" but Foundry is "francid". It's a naming quirk.
I believe heasley has renamed that parser in v3 to follow convention.
clogin is the expect script to do logins and many things use it, not just the Cisco parser. All it needs to do is log in with user/pass, enable if necessary, detect the prompt and issue all required commands.
All of this info, including the actual login script to use for a
type, is in the parser script. So it's one more oddity, you might
have a type "XYZ" with it's own peculiar commands and output so it's
parser is xyzrancid. But login works much like cisco (which really
is a classic telnet login) so xyz uses clogin![1]
To debug a given device, you have to run the correct parser manually.
Look up your type in rancid-fe (it's a large hashmap near the top) and run that script on the device with the -d option.
You will get debug output including the *login command used.
Paste that into your terminal (it's often clogin but not always) and look carefully at what your device is returning.
Or post the output so we can help further.
[1] I'm used to all this real-life weirdness as I've used rancid so
much I don't think much about it anymore. It's only when I type
mails like this that I realise just how nuts the field of a netadmin
has become :-)

Post by Pedrosi, Derek G.
#XXXX
add method * {ssh}
add user * svc_rancid
add password * StandPW EnablePW
add autoenable 1
add autoenable DC-Cisco5525x.network.xxxx.com 0
------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
-
-
--
*Derek G Pedrosi*| Manager of Technology Infrastructure
*Miller Canfield*
Detroit, Michigan 48226 (USA)
------------------------------------------------------------------
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-
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--
*Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2015 10:29 AM
*To:* Pedrosi, Derek G.
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
Looks like a .cloginrc problem related to autoenable.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 3 Aug 2015, at 14:59, Pedrosi, Derek G.
I've tried that to no success...
The bit of debugging that I can do yielded this...
chassis;show module;show flash;show running-config" 10.1.1.3
10.1.1.3
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l svc_rancid 10.1.1.3
Error: TIMEOUT reached
Rancid is able to logon, but no commands are issued?
BUT, strangely enough when I do the same command as above with
"clogin" it works as it should.
BUT, if in my "router.db" I set the type to "cisco" (which I assume
means use clogin) I do get a SVN entry in my repository, but it is
blank.
Trying to get all of the configs.
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: found unexpected command -
"dir /all sup-bootflash:"
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: missed cmd(s): dir /all
slavedisk2:,show capture,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all
sec-nvram:,show running-config view full,dir /all
sec-bootflash:,sho$
dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com
<http://dc-turboiron2.network.XXXX.com>: End of run not found
=====================================
Ps Why do you suggest v7.4.00j
Many thanks,
derek
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [rancid] Brocade TurboIron24
These are type: "foundry".
7.4.00j would be a good choice for software.
Nick
Sent from my iWotsit.
On 31 Jul 2015, at 19:11, Pedrosi, Derek G.
Greetings all,
I have a few of Brocade's TI24s in my environment. I would like to
intergrate them into Rancid with my Cisco gear, but I have not had
any luck. Can someone possibly point my in the right direction?
Many thanx,
derek
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