[rancid] Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when no changes have been made

Discussion:

Shane Kavanagh

2009-10-05 10:17:53 UTC

All

I am having an issued with rancid reporting changes in the routers.db file
when no changes have been made. This is a random thing, rancid could run
for days without reporting an issue then could report the same issue server
time a day. Here is an example

-----Original Message-----
From: Racnd [mailto:***@gbedub-rancid01.GBE.local]
Sent: 02 October 2009 17:00
To: rancid-admin-***@gbedub-rancid01.GBE.local
Subject: changes in IFSC routers

Routers changed to up:
intbt01-switch:cisco
intcolt01-switch:cisco

Added routers:
intbt01-switch:cisco
intcolt01-switch:cisco

Deleted routers:
intbt01-switch:cisco
intcolt01-switch:cisco

Any help, Ideas or Suggestions are welcome

Regards

Shane Kavanagh

Iñaki Martinez Diez

2009-10-05 13:59:51 UTC

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Hi, 
 
 I have the same problem an dif you see log file you will see some like
this: 
 
<tt>cvs add: `intbt01-switch'
already exists, with version number x.x 
Added  intbt01-switch 
</tt> 
 An old email in this list said to add a fake line at the bottom of
router.db like this: 
 
<tt> fake-router:cisco:down 
</tt> 
and then run rancid-run, but my problem still there. 
 
 
Shane Kavanagh escribió:
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cite="mid:***@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I am having an issued with rancid reporting changes in the
routers.db file when no changes have been made.  This is a random
thing, rancid could run for days without reporting an issue then could
report the same issue server time a day.  Here is an example 
 
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Message----- 
From: Racnd [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:***@gbedub-rancid01.GBE.local">***@gbedub-rancid01.GBE.local</a>]
 
Sent: 02 October
2009 17:00 
To:
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Subject: changes in
IFSC routers 
 
 
Routers changed to
up: 
       
intbt01-switch:cisco 
       
intcolt01-switch:cisco 
 
Added routers: 
       
intbt01-switch:cisco 
       
intcolt01-switch:cisco 
 
Deleted routers: 
       
intbt01-switch:cisco 
       
intcolt01-switch:cisco 
 
 
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john heasley

2009-10-05 17:27:10 UTC

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Post by Shane Kavanagh
All
I am having an issued with rancid reporting changes in the routers.db file
when no changes have been made. This is a random thing, rancid could run
for days without reporting an issue then could report the same issue server
time a day. Here is an example

random is weird; if it were consistent I'd suggest either permissions problem
or rancid's configure picked-up the wrong diff options (see DIFF_CMD in
rancid.conf).

Post by Shane Kavanagh
-----Original Message-----
Sent: 02 October 2009 17:00
Subject: changes in IFSC routers
intbt01-switch:cisco
intcolt01-switch:cisco
intbt01-switch:cisco
intcolt01-switch:cisco
intbt01-switch:cisco
intcolt01-switch:cisco
Any help, Ideas or Suggestions are welcome
Regards
Shane Kavanagh
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Iñaki Martinez Diez

2009-10-06 06:38:25 UTC

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Hi,

In my case it is everyday, so it is not random.

In the rancid.conf i have no DIFF_CMD option, my installation is a
Debian 5.0.3.

But this problem only occurs in 2 groups and i have 10 groups, so i
think the problem is in the CVS.

The permissions are the same in all groups so i think this is not the
problem.

Post by john heasley
random is weird; if it were consistent I'd suggest either permissions problem
or rancid's configure picked-up the wrong diff options (see DIFF_CMD in
rancid.conf).

john heasley

2009-10-06 07:49:06 UTC

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Post by IÃ±aki Martinez Diez
Hi,
In my case it is everyday, so it is not random.
In the rancid.conf i have no DIFF_CMD option, my installation is a
Debian 5.0.3.
But this problem only occurs in 2 groups and i have 10 groups, so i
think the problem is in the CVS.
The permissions are the same in all groups so i think this is not the
problem.

random is not something that i'd expect. its weird, youre in unchartered
territory. you'll have to explore youreself or hire a unix wiz.

Post by IÃ±aki Martinez Diez

Post by john heasley
random is weird; if it were consistent I'd suggest either permissions problem
or rancid's configure picked-up the wrong diff options (see DIFF_CMD in
rancid.conf).

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Shane Kavanagh

2009-10-06 09:08:37 UTC

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All

I added the fake router to the end of the config and this did not solve the
problem, I cut and paste the offending devices to the end of the config and
this did not work either, I deleted the offending devices from the config
and ran rancid again, got an alert for deleted routers, then added them in
from scratch and I got 1 alert to inform me of new routers and I have not
had any issues since then.

if anyone else if having this issue they may try the above. I think it may
have been an issue with and CR at the end of each line might not have been a
CR but a Manual line break instead.

Regards

SK

Post by john heasley

random is not something that i'd expect. its weird, youre in unchartered
territory. you'll have to explore youreself or hire a unix wiz.

Post by IÃ±aki Martinez Diez

Post by john heasley
random is weird; if it were consistent I'd suggest either permissions

problem

Post by IÃ±aki Martinez Diez

Post by john heasley
or rancid's configure picked-up the wrong diff options (see DIFF_CMD in
rancid.conf).

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john heasley

2009-10-06 16:17:18 UTC

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Post by Shane Kavanagh
All
I added the fake router to the end of the config and this did not solve the
problem, I cut and paste the offending devices to the end of the config and
this did not work either, I deleted the offending devices from the config
and ran rancid again, got an alert for deleted routers, then added them in
from scratch and I got 1 alert to inform me of new routers and I have not
had any issues since then.
if anyone else if having this issue they may try the above. I think it may
have been an issue with and CR at the end of each line might not have been a
CR but a Manual line break instead.

What is a 'manual line break'? Do you mean that you used a Windows box to
create router.db, so it had a CR?

Post by Shane Kavanagh
Regards
SK

Post by john heasley

random is not something that i'd expect. its weird, youre in unchartered
territory. you'll have to explore youreself or hire a unix wiz.

Post by IÃ±aki Martinez Diez

Post by john heasley
random is weird; if it were consistent I'd suggest either permissions

problem

Post by IÃ±aki Martinez Diez

Post by john heasley
or rancid's configure picked-up the wrong diff options (see DIFF_CMD in
rancid.conf).

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