[rancid] Permissions and files

[Ryan Milton]

I don't know where to go on this. I can't tell if my Rancid configuration is even working. I'm at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see what happens. I am getting a combination of "Permission Denied" errors on the .cloginrc file, "End of Run Not found" errors, and some others that I excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in /var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:

sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid

gets me:

starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013

VS:

starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013

/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 206: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission denied
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.1
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.2
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.3

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.2: End of run not found
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.3: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.3: End of run not found
94.229.11.1 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.14.250: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show version,show system-information,write term,show system information
94.229.14.250: End of run not found
;
unknown router manufacturer for 94.229.11.218: junper
94.229.11.92 clogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.210: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.210: End of run not found








Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

[Tom Simpson]

[Ryan Milton]

Well, I was attempting to run as rancid. I don't know how it would run "normally".

Here is what I show:

-rwxr-x--- 1 rancid rancid 1946 Sep 6 15:57 .cloginrc

I think that is chmod 750 .cloginrc (now). Would I make it something different?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Tom Simpson [mailto:***@forchtgroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:39 AM
To: Ryan Milton; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

The .cloginrc doesn't have the proper permissions set for the rancid user. Or are you running it as someone else?


Mine is

-rw-rw----. 2 apache rancid 4429 Aug 27 10:12 .cloginrc


I tend to login as the rancid user, sudo su - rancid for testing purposes, since I disallow ssh login to the server for any user except normal users...



--
Thanks,

Tom Simpson
LAN/WAN Engineer
Forcht Group of Kentucky
859.259.9700 x538

"We all knew there was just one way to improve our odds for survival:
train, train, train. Sometimes, if your training is properly intense it
will kill you. More often -- much, much more often -- it will save your
life." - Richard Marcinko, former US Navy SEAL Team Commander

From: Ryan Milton <***@mvsusa.com<mailto:***@mvsusa.com>>
Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:59 AM
To: "rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>" <rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>>
Subject: [rancid] Permissions and files

[cid:***@01CEAFAE.6DA34530]
I don't know where to go on this. I can't tell if my Rancid configuration is even working. I'm at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see what happens. I am getting a combination of "Permission Denied" errors on the .cloginrc file, "End of Run Not found" errors, and some others that I excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in /var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:

sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid

gets me:

starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013

VS:

starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013

/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 206: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission denied
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.1
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.2
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.3

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.2: End of run not found
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.3: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.3: End of run not found
94.229.11.1 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.14.250: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show version,show system-information,write term,show system information
94.229.14.250: End of run not found
;
unknown router manufacturer for 94.229.11.218: junper
94.229.11.92 clogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.210: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.210: End of run not found








Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]


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[Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]]

Hi Ryan,

You should have permissions set to 600 on .cloginrc.

Regards,
Scotty

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:52 AM
To: Tom Simpson; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Well, I was attempting to run as rancid. I don't know how it would run "normally".

Here is what I show:

-rwxr-x--- 1 rancid rancid 1946 Sep 6 15:57 .cloginrc

I think that is chmod 750 .cloginrc (now). Would I make it something different?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Tom Simpson [mailto:***@forchtgroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:39 AM
To: Ryan Milton; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

The .cloginrc doesn't have the proper permissions set for the rancid user. Or are you running it as someone else?


Mine is

-rw-rw----. 2 apache rancid 4429 Aug 27 10:12 .cloginrc


I tend to login as the rancid user, sudo su - rancid for testing purposes, since I disallow ssh login to the server for any user except normal users...



--
Thanks,

Tom Simpson
LAN/WAN Engineer
Forcht Group of Kentucky
859.259.9700 x538

"We all knew there was just one way to improve our odds for survival:
train, train, train. Sometimes, if your training is properly intense it
will kill you. More often -- much, much more often -- it will save your
life." - Richard Marcinko, former US Navy SEAL Team Commander

From: Ryan Milton <***@mvsusa.com<mailto:***@mvsusa.com>>
Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:59 AM
To: "rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>" <rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>>
Subject: [rancid] Permissions and files

[cid:***@01CEAFAD.701BB4B0]
I don't know where to go on this. I can't tell if my Rancid configuration is even working. I'm at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see what happens. I am getting a combination of "Permission Denied" errors on the .cloginrc file, "End of Run Not found" errors, and some others that I excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in /var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:

sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid

gets me:

starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013

VS:

starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013

/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 206: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission denied
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.1
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.2
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.3

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.2: End of run not found
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.3: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.3: End of run not found
94.229.11.1 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.14.250: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show version,show system-information,write term,show system information
94.229.14.250: End of run not found
;
unknown router manufacturer for 94.229.11.218: junper
94.229.11.92 clogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.210: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.210: End of run not found








Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]


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[Ryan Milton]

Just for clarity (and thanks for the assistance) what should be the permissions on the directories in /var/lib/rancid where the routers.db reside? The same 600?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:44 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Tom Simpson; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

Hi Ryan,

You should have permissions set to 600 on .cloginrc.

Regards,
Scotty

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:52 AM
To: Tom Simpson; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Well, I was attempting to run as rancid. I don't know how it would run "normally".

Here is what I show:

-rwxr-x--- 1 rancid rancid 1946 Sep 6 15:57 .cloginrc

I think that is chmod 750 .cloginrc (now). Would I make it something different?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Tom Simpson [mailto:***@forchtgroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:39 AM
To: Ryan Milton; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

The .cloginrc doesn't have the proper permissions set for the rancid user. Or are you running it as someone else?


Mine is

-rw-rw----. 2 apache rancid 4429 Aug 27 10:12 .cloginrc


I tend to login as the rancid user, sudo su - rancid for testing purposes, since I disallow ssh login to the server for any user except normal users...



--
Thanks,

Tom Simpson
LAN/WAN Engineer
Forcht Group of Kentucky
859.259.9700 x538

"We all knew there was just one way to improve our odds for survival:
train, train, train. Sometimes, if your training is properly intense it
will kill you. More often -- much, much more often -- it will save your
life." - Richard Marcinko, former US Navy SEAL Team Commander

From: Ryan Milton <***@mvsusa.com<mailto:***@mvsusa.com>>
Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:59 AM
To: "rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>" <rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>>
Subject: [rancid] Permissions and files

[cid:***@01CEAFB7.BA188C50]
I don't know where to go on this. I can't tell if my Rancid configuration is even working. I'm at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see what happens. I am getting a combination of "Permission Denied" errors on the .cloginrc file, "End of Run Not found" errors, and some others that I excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in /var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:

sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid

gets me:

starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013

VS:

starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013

/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 206: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission denied
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.1
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.2
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.3

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.2: End of run not found
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.3: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.3: End of run not found
94.229.11.1 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.14.250: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show version,show system-information,write term,show system information
94.229.14.250: End of run not found
;
unknown router manufacturer for 94.229.11.218: junper
94.229.11.92 clogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.210: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.210: End of run not found








Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]


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This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.

Forcht Group IT, 2400 South Main Street, Corbin, Ky.

[Aaron Dudek]

that isn't your problem

Post by Ryan Milton
Just for clarity (and thanks for the assistance) what should be the
permissions on the directories in /var/lib/rancid where the routers.db
reside? The same 600?****
** **
Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
www.mvsusa.com****
[image: MVS final logo GOOD very small]****
** **
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:44 PM
*Subject:* RE: [rancid] Permissions and files****
** **
Hi Ryan,****
** **
You should have permissions set to 600 on .cloginrc.****
** **
Regards,****
Scotty****
** **
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Permissions and files****
** **
Well, I was attempting to run as rancid. I don’t know how it would run
“normally”.****
** **
Here is what I show: ****
** **
-rwxr-x--- 1 rancid rancid 1946 Sep 6 15:57 .cloginrc****
** **
I think that is chmod 750 .cloginrc (now). Would I make it something
different?****
** **
Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
www.mvsusa.com****
[image: MVS final logo GOOD very small]****
** **
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:39 AM
*To:* Ryan Milton;

[Aaron Dudek]

mine is
-rw-r--r-- 1 rancid other 279 Mar 16 2011 .cshrc
and I have no issues.

You should be running as the rancid user, not root.

Well, I was attempting to run as rancid. I don’t know how it would run
“normally”.****
** **
Here is what I show: ****
** **
-rwxr-x--- 1 rancid rancid 1946 Sep 6 15:57 .cloginrc****
** **
I think that is chmod 750 .cloginrc (now). Would I make it something
different?****
** **
Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
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*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:39 AM
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Permissions and files****
** **
The .cloginrc doesn't have the proper permissions set for the rancid user.
Or are you running it as someone else?****
** **
** **
Mine is****
** **
-rw-rw----. 2 apache rancid 4429 Aug 27 10:12 .cloginrc****
** **
** **
I tend to login as the rancid user, sudo su – rancid for testing
purposes, since I disallow ssh login to the server for any user except
normal users…****
** **
** **
** **
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** **
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*Date: *Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:59 AM
*Subject: *[rancid] Permissions and files****
** **
****
I don’t know where to go on this. I can’t tell if my Rancid configuration
is even working. I’m at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see
what happens. I am getting a combination of “Permission Denied” errors on
the .cloginrc file, “End of Run Not found” errors, and some others that I
excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in
/var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:****
****
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid****
****
gets me: ****
****
starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
****
****
ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
VS:****
****
starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013****
****
/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission
denied****
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.1****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.2****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.3****
****
***TRUNCATED*******
****
94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file
"/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied****
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware
detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis
routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb
detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show
chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc
detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps****
94.229.11.2: End of run not found****
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file
"/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied****
94.229.11.3: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware
detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis
routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb
detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show
chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc
detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps****
94.229.11.3: End of run not found****
94.229.11.1 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file
"/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied****
****
***TRUNCATED*******
****
94.229.14.250: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show
version,show system-information,write term,show system information****
94.229.14.250: End of run not found****
;****
unknown router manufacturer for 94.229.11.218: junper****
94.229.11.92 clogin error: Error: couldn't read file
"/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied****
****
***TRUNCATED*******
****
94.229.11.210: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware
detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis
routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb
detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show
chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc
detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps****
94.229.11.210: End of run not found****
****
****
****
****
****
****
****
****
Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
www.mvsusa.com****
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<image001.gif>
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid
starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013
ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013
starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013
/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 206: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission denied

Fix that. chown -R rancid /var/rancid

comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.1
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.2
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.3
***TRUNCATED***
94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.2: End of run not found
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.3: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.3: End of run not found
94.229.11.1 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
***TRUNCATED***
94.229.14.250: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show version,show system-information,write term,show system information
94.229.14.250: End of run not found
;
unknown router manufacturer for 94.229.11.218: junper
94.229.11.92 clogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
***TRUNCATED***
94.229.11.210: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.210: End of run not found
Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com
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[Ryan Milton]

Ok, I have changed the ownership. I made a test config change on a device, ran rancid and exactly the same as:
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid

gets me:

starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013

So, the config change doesn’t show.

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Heasley [mailto:***@shrubbery.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:40 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Am Sep 12, 2013 um 16:59 schrieb Ryan Milton <***@mvsusa.com<mailto:***@mvsusa.com>>:

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I don’t know where to go on this. I can’t tell if my Rancid configuration is even working. I’m at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see what happens. I am getting a combination of “Permission Denied” errors on the .cloginrc file, “End of Run Not found” errors, and some others that I excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in /var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:

sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid

gets me:

starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013

VS:

starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013

/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 206: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission denied

Fix that. chown -R rancid /var/rancid



comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.1
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.2
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3
initial revision: 1.1
Added 94.229.11.3

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.2: End of run not found
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.3: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.3: End of run not found
94.229.11.1 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.14.250: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show version,show system-information,write term,show system information
94.229.14.250: End of run not found
;
unknown router manufacturer for 94.229.11.218: junper
94.229.11.92 clogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

***TRUNCATED***

94.229.11.210: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.210: End of run not found








Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
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[Aaron Dudek]

what happens when you just run it as the rancid user?

Post by Ryan Milton
Ok, I have changed the ownership. I made a test config change on a
device, ran rancid and exactly the same as:****
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid****
****
gets me: ****
****
starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
****
****
ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
** **
So, the config change doesn’t show.****
** **
Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
www.mvsusa.com****
[image: MVS final logo GOOD very small]****
** **
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:40 PM
*To:* Ryan Milton
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Permissions and files****
** **

:****

** **
<image001.gif> ****
I don’t know where to go on this. I can’t tell if my Rancid configuration
is even working. I’m at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see
what happens. I am getting a combination of “Permission Denied” errors on
the .cloginrc file, “End of Run Not found” errors, and some others that I
excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in
/var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:****
****
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid****
****
gets me: ****
****
starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
****
****
ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
VS:****
****
starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013****
****
/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission
denied****
** **
Fix that. chown -R rancid /var/rancid****
** **
****
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.1****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.2****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.3****
****
***TRUNCATED*******
****
94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file
"/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied****
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware
detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis
routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb
detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show
chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc
detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps****
94.229.11.2: End of run not found****
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file
"/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied*<*

[Ryan Milton]

Ok, so since I'm following various guides (mostly the "Ubuntu server install), I am assuming that the command is /usr/bin/rancid-run.


***@ObserviumNYC:/var/log/rancid$ vi MVSNetwork.20130912.144417
gives me:
starting: Thu Sep 12 14:44:17 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 14:44:17 EDT 2013

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:22 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

what happens when you just run it as the rancid user?

On Thursday, September 12, 2013, Ryan Milton wrote:
Ok, I have changed the ownership. I made a test config change on a device, ran rancid and exactly the same as:
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid

gets me:

starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013

So, the config change doesn't show.

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Heasley [mailto:***@shrubbery.net<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'***@shrubbery.net');>]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:40 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'rancid-***@shrubbery.net');>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Am Sep 12, 2013 um 16:59 schrieb Ryan Milton <***@mvsusa.com<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'***@mvsusa.com');>>:



<image001.gif>

I don't know where to go on this. I can't tell if my Rancid configuration is even working. I'm at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see what happens. I am getting a combination of "Permission Denied" errors on the .cloginrc file, "End of Run Not found" errors, and some others that I excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in /var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:



sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid



gets me:



starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013







ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



VS:



starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013



/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 206: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission denied



Fix that. chown -R rancid /var/rancid





comm: file 2 is not in sorted order

comm: file 2 is not in sorted order

comm: file 2 is not in sorted order

cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition

cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently

/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1<http://94.229.11.1>,v <-- 94.229.11.1

initial revision: 1.1

Added 94.229.11.1

cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition

cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently

/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2<http://94.229.11.2>,v <-- 94.229.11.2

initial revision: 1.1

Added 94.229.11.2

cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition

cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently

/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3<http://94.229.11.3>,v <-- 94.229.11.3

initial revision: 1.1

Added 94.229.11.3



***TRUNCATED***



94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

94.229.11.2<http://94.229.11.2>: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps

94.229.11.2<http://94.229.11.2>: End of run not found

94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied<

[Aaron Dudek]

Not what I meant.
su - rancid
then do
pwd
then
/var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run

Where did "/usr/bin/rancid-run" come from? Because that is different then
what you were trying to run before.

Ok, so since I’m following various guides (mostly the “Ubuntu server
install), I am assuming that the command is /usr/bin/rancid-run.****
** **
** **
gives me: ****
starting: Thu Sep 12 14:44:17 EDT 2013****
** **
** **
** **
ending: Thu Sep 12 14:44:17 EDT 2013****
** **
Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
www.mvsusa.com****
[image: MVS final logo GOOD very small]****
** **
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:22 PM
*To:* Ryan Milton
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Permissions and files****
** **
what happens when you just run it as the rancid user?
On Thursday, September 12, 2013, Ryan Milton wrote:****
Ok, I have changed the ownership. I made a test config change on a
device, ran rancid and exactly the same as:****
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid****
****
gets me: ****
****
starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
****
****
ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
So, the config change doesn’t show.****
****
Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
www.mvsusa.com****
[image: MVS final logo GOOD very small]****
****
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:40 PM
*To:* Ryan Milton
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Permissions and files****
****
****
<image001.gif> ****
I don’t know where to go on this. I can’t tell if my Rancid configuration
is even working. I’m at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see
what happens. I am getting a combination of “Permission Denied” errors on
the .cloginrc file, “End of Run Not found” errors, and some others that I
excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in
/var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:****
****
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid****
****
gets me: ****
****
starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
****
****
ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013****
****
VS:****
****
starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013****
****
/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission
denied****
****
Fix that. chown -R rancid /var/rancid****
****
** **
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
comm: file 2 is not in sorted order****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1,v <-- 94.229.11.1****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.1****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2,v <-- 94.229.11.2****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.2****
cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition****
cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently****
/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3,v <-- 94.229.11.3****
initial revision: 1.1****
Added 94.229.11.3****
****
***TRUNCATED*******
****
94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file
"/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied****
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware
detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis
routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb
detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show
chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc
detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps****
94.229.11.2: End of run not found****
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file
"/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied*<*****

[Ryan Milton]

Ok,
I got you. Seems everything in /var/lib/rancid/bin is root:

***@ObserviumNYC:/var/log/rancid$ cd /var/lib/rancid/bin/
***@ObserviumNYC:/var/lib/rancid/bin$ ls -lt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 67004 Mar 5 2012 rancid
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4420 Mar 5 2012 rancid-cvs

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:52 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Not what I meant.
su - rancid
then do
pwd
then
/var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run
Where did "/usr/bin/rancid-run" come from? Because that is different then what you were trying to run before.


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Ryan Milton <***@mvsusa.com<mailto:***@mvsusa.com>> wrote:
Ok, so since I'm following various guides (mostly the "Ubuntu server install), I am assuming that the command is /usr/bin/rancid-run.


***@ObserviumNYC:/var/log/rancid$ vi MVSNetwork.20130912.144417
gives me:
starting: Thu Sep 12 14:44:17 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 14:44:17 EDT 2013

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:22 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>

Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

what happens when you just run it as the rancid user?

On Thursday, September 12, 2013, Ryan Milton wrote:
Ok, I have changed the ownership. I made a test config change on a device, ran rancid and exactly the same as:
sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid

gets me:

starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013

So, the config change doesn't show.

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Heasley [mailto:***@shrubbery.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:40 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Am Sep 12, 2013 um 16:59 schrieb Ryan Milton <***@mvsusa.com<mailto:***@mvsusa.com>>:



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I don't know where to go on this. I can't tell if my Rancid configuration is even working. I'm at the point of testing rancid-run manually to see what happens. I am getting a combination of "Permission Denied" errors on the .cloginrc file, "End of Run Not found" errors, and some others that I excerpted below. That said, I have an example of the file in /var/log/rancid from today and from Friday:



sudo -i su -c /var/lib/rancid/bin/rancid-run -s /bin/bash -l rancid



gets me:



starting: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013







ending: Thu Sep 12 10:53:28 EDT 2013



VS:



starting: Fri Sep 6 15:57:50 EDT 2013



/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 206: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create routers.db: Permission denied



Fix that. chown -R rancid /var/rancid





comm: file 2 is not in sorted order

comm: file 2 is not in sorted order

comm: file 2 is not in sorted order

cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.1' for addition

cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently

/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.1<http://94.229.11.1>,v <-- 94.229.11.1

initial revision: 1.1

Added 94.229.11.1

cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.2' for addition

cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently

/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.2<http://94.229.11.2>,v <-- 94.229.11.2

initial revision: 1.1

Added 94.229.11.2

cvs add: scheduling file `94.229.11.3' for addition

cvs add: use `cvs commit' to add this file permanently

/var/lib/rancid/CVS/MVSNetwork/configs/94.229.11.3<http://94.229.11.3>,v <-- 94.229.11.3

initial revision: 1.1

Added 94.229.11.3



***TRUNCATED***



94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied

94.229.11.2<http://94.229.11.2>: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps

94.229.11.2<http://94.229.11.2>: End of run not found

94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied<

[Aaron Dudek]

[Ryan Milton]

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]]

If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show running-config, do you receive any errors?

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Ryan Milton]

Well, here is what I get, I am assuming its due to the fact that my equipment is Juniper:

***@ObserviumNYC:/var/lib/rancid$ /usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.XXX.11.1
94.XXX.11.1
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l ryan 94.XXX.11.1
***@94.229.11.1's password:
--- JUNOS 9.3R4.4 built 2009-08-12 04:44:38 UTC
***@core1.ams1> enable
^
unknown command.


***@core1.ams1>
Error: TIMEOUT reached
can not find channel named "exp6"
while executing
"send "\r""
("foreach" body line 167)
invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
set router [string tolower $router]
# attempt at platform switching.
set platform ""
send_user ..."
(file "/usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin" line 778)



Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show running-config, do you receive any errors?

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]]

You should use the jlogin script for Juniper devices /usr/lib/rancid/bin/jlogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc X.X.X.X.

From: Ryan Milton [mailto:***@mvsusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:36 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

Well, here is what I get, I am assuming its due to the fact that my equipment is Juniper:

***@ObserviumNYC:/var/lib/rancid$ /usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.XXX.11.1
94.XXX.11.1
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l ryan 94.XXX.11.1
***@94.229.11.1's<mailto:***@94.229.11.1's> password:
--- JUNOS 9.3R4.4 built 2009-08-12 04:44:38 UTC
***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>> enable
^
unknown command.


***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>>
Error: TIMEOUT reached
can not find channel named "exp6"
while executing
"send "\r""
("foreach" body line 167)
invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
set router [string tolower $router]
# attempt at platform switching.
set platform ""
send_user ..."
(file "/usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin" line 778)



Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show running-config, do you receive any errors?

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Ryan Milton]

Ahhhhh! Ok now if I am a multi-vendor operation, some Juniper, some HP, Netscreen, Cisco, etc, how do I set so that the correct script runs for various device types? And would that be set in the chronjob the same way?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:39 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

You should use the jlogin script for Juniper devices /usr/lib/rancid/bin/jlogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc X.X.X.X.

From: Ryan Milton [mailto:***@mvsusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:36 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

Well, here is what I get, I am assuming its due to the fact that my equipment is Juniper:

***@ObserviumNYC:/var/lib/rancid$ /usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.XXX.11.1
94.XXX.11.1
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l ryan 94.XXX.11.1
***@94.229.11.1's<mailto:***@94.229.11.1's> password:
--- JUNOS 9.3R4.4 built 2009-08-12 04:44:38 UTC
***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>> enable
^
unknown command.


***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>>
Error: TIMEOUT reached
can not find channel named "exp6"
while executing
"send "\r""
("foreach" body line 167)
invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
set router [string tolower $router]
# attempt at platform switching.
set platform ""
send_user ..."
(file "/usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin" line 778)



Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show running-config, do you receive any errors?

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Hughes, Doug]

In your rancid router.db file that lists the devices you list the device type

e.g.

sw1:cisco:up
sw2:juniper:up
sw3:force10:up
sw4:hp:up

etc.





From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:45 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Ahhhhh! Ok now if I am a multi-vendor operation, some Juniper, some HP, Netscreen, Cisco, etc, how do I set so that the correct script runs for various device types? And would that be set in the chronjob the same way?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:39 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

You should use the jlogin script for Juniper devices /usr/lib/rancid/bin/jlogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc X.X.X.X.

From: Ryan Milton [mailto:***@mvsusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:36 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

Well, here is what I get, I am assuming its due to the fact that my equipment is Juniper:

***@ObserviumNYC:/var/lib/rancid$ /usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.XXX.11.1
94.XXX.11.1
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l ryan 94.XXX.11.1
***@94.229.11.1's<mailto:***@94.229.11.1's> password:
--- JUNOS 9.3R4.4 built 2009-08-12 04:44:38 UTC
***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>> enable
^
unknown command.


***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>>
Error: TIMEOUT reached
can not find channel named "exp6"
while executing
"send "\r""
("foreach" body line 167)
invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
set router [string tolower $router]
# attempt at platform switching.
set platform ""
send_user ..."
(file "/usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin" line 778)



Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show running-config, do you receive any errors?

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Ryan West]

And rancid-fe in the bin directory shows the device types.


From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Hughes, Doug
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:49 PM
To: 'Ryan Milton'; Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

In your rancid router.db file that lists the devices you list the device type

e.g.

sw1:cisco:up
sw2:juniper:up
sw3:force10:up
sw4:hp:up

etc.





From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:45 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Ahhhhh! Ok now if I am a multi-vendor operation, some Juniper, some HP, Netscreen, Cisco, etc, how do I set so that the correct script runs for various device types? And would that be set in the chronjob the same way?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:39 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

You should use the jlogin script for Juniper devices /usr/lib/rancid/bin/jlogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc X.X.X.X.

From: Ryan Milton [mailto:***@mvsusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:36 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

Well, here is what I get, I am assuming its due to the fact that my equipment is Juniper:

***@ObserviumNYC:/var/lib/rancid$ /usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.XXX.11.1
94.XXX.11.1
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l ryan 94.XXX.11.1
***@94.229.11.1's<mailto:***@94.229.11.1's> password:
--- JUNOS 9.3R4.4 built 2009-08-12 04:44:38 UTC
***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>> enable
^
unknown command.


***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>>
Error: TIMEOUT reached
can not find channel named "exp6"
while executing
"send "\r""
("foreach" body line 167)
invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
set router [string tolower $router]
# attempt at platform switching.
set platform ""
send_user ..."
(file "/usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin" line 778)



Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show running-config, do you receive any errors?

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Ryan Milton]

So, for ex:

AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD:juniper:up
AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD:hp:up
AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD:netscreen:up

Should work. Now, running rancid-run gives me simply those devices listed the exact same way, but as "devices added".

I thought I changed the permissions that are in error bottom, but when I ran again I got:
hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.MVSNetwork.run.lock exists
-rw-r----- 1 rancid rancid 0 Sep 12 17:08 /tmp/.MVSNetwork.run.lock

SO I KNOW ITS CLOSE, but not there yet.

Before I go off and do something new, confirm for me that this solution that I found is MOST likely to solve above issue:

It sounds like you're checking too many hosts in one single linear run
and it's taking too long. You may want to either increase PAR_COUNT in
etc/rancid.conf or you may want to run each of the groups listed in
LIST_OF_GROUPS from cron separately.

0 */1 * * * rancid-run abc ---- where abc is what??
0 */1 * * * rancid-run def
0 */1 * * * rancid-run ghi
0 */1 * * * rancid-run jkl
0 */1 * * * rancid-run mno

I do both. I set PAR_COUNT to 5 and I run each of our POPs (how I break
up LIST_OF_GROUPS) separately from cron. That way a slow speed link in
one POP won't hold up the rancid on the other POPs.

That's my take on your problem.

Justin


Fixed Permissions to the below:
Trying to get all of the configs.
195.3.164.154 nlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
195.3.164.154: missed cmd(s): get system,get conf
195.3.164.154: End of run not found
#
94.229.11.190 nlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.190: missed cmd(s): get system,get conf
94.229.11.190: End of run not found
#
94.229.11.1 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.1: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.1: End of run not found
94.229.11.210 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.210: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.210: End of run not found
#
#
94.229.11.218 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.218: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.218: End of run not found
#
94.229.11.3 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.3: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.3: End of run not found
#
94.229.11.4 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.4: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.4: End of run not found
#
94.229.11.2 jlogin error: Error: couldn't read file "/home/rancid/.cloginrc": permission denied
94.229.11.2: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
94.229.11.2: End of run not found

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Ryan West [mailto:***@zyedge.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:50 PM
To: Hughes, Doug; Ryan Milton; Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

And rancid-fe in the bin directory shows the device types.


From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Hughes, Doug
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:49 PM
To: 'Ryan Milton'; Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

In your rancid router.db file that lists the devices you list the device type

e.g.

sw1:cisco:up
sw2:juniper:up
sw3:force10:up
sw4:hp:up

etc.





From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:45 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

Ahhhhh! Ok now if I am a multi-vendor operation, some Juniper, some HP, Netscreen, Cisco, etc, how do I set so that the correct script runs for various device types? And would that be set in the chronjob the same way?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:39 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

You should use the jlogin script for Juniper devices /usr/lib/rancid/bin/jlogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc X.X.X.X.

From: Ryan Milton [mailto:***@mvsusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:36 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

Well, here is what I get, I am assuming its due to the fact that my equipment is Juniper:

***@ObserviumNYC:/var/lib/rancid$ /usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.XXX.11.1
94.XXX.11.1
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l ryan 94.XXX.11.1
***@94.229.11.1's<mailto:***@94.229.11.1's> password:
--- JUNOS 9.3R4.4 built 2009-08-12 04:44:38 UTC
***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>> enable
^
unknown command.


***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>>
Error: TIMEOUT reached
can not find channel named "exp6"
while executing
"send "\r""
("foreach" body line 167)
invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
set router [string tolower $router]
# attempt at platform switching.
set platform ""
send_user ..."
(file "/usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin" line 778)



Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show running-config, do you receive any errors?

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Roy]

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[Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]]

The vendor type is set in your router.db files. You specify your device then the type and finally a status of up or down eg. X.X.X.X:juniper:up or X.X.X.X:cisco:up. The supported device types are in the rancid-fe file which states the device type and what files are used to access the device.

List
--
%vendortable = (
'agm' => 'agmrancid',
'alteon' => 'arancid',
'arista' => 'arrancid',
'avocent' => 'avorancid',
'baynet' => 'brancid',
'cat5' => 'cat5rancid',
'cisco' => 'rancid',
'cisco-nx' => 'nxrancid',
'cisco-xr' => 'xrrancid',
'css' => 'cssrancid',
'enterasys' => 'rivrancid',
'erx' => 'jerancid',
'extreme' => 'xrancid',
'ezt3' => 'erancid',
'f5' => 'f5rancid',
'force10' => 'f10rancid',
'fortigate' => 'fnrancid',
'foundry' => 'francid',
'hitachi' => 'htrancid',
'hp' => 'hrancid',
'juniper' => 'jrancid',
'mrtd' => 'mrancid',
'mrv' => 'mrvrancid',
'netopia' => 'trancid',
'netscaler' => 'nsrancid',
'netscreen' => 'nrancid',
'procket' => 'prancid',
'redback' => 'rrancid',
'riverstone' => 'rivrancid',
'smc' => 'srancid',
'tnt' => 'tntrancid',
'zebra' => 'zrancid'
);

From: Ryan Milton [mailto:***@mvsusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:45 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

Ahhhhh! Ok now if I am a multi-vendor operation, some Juniper, some HP, Netscreen, Cisco, etc, how do I set so that the correct script runs for various device types? And would that be set in the chronjob the same way?

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:39 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

You should use the jlogin script for Juniper devices /usr/lib/rancid/bin/jlogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc X.X.X.X.

From: Ryan Milton [mailto:***@mvsusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:36 PM
To: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

Well, here is what I get, I am assuming its due to the fact that my equipment is Juniper:

***@ObserviumNYC:/var/lib/rancid$ /usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.XXX.11.1
94.XXX.11.1
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l ryan 94.XXX.11.1
***@94.229.11.1's<mailto:***@94.229.11.1's> password:
--- JUNOS 9.3R4.4 built 2009-08-12 04:44:38 UTC
***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>> enable
^
unknown command.


***@core1.ams1<mailto:***@core1.ams1>>
Error: TIMEOUT reached
can not find channel named "exp6"
while executing
"send "\r""
("foreach" body line 167)
invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
set router [string tolower $router]
# attempt at platform switching.
set platform ""
send_user ..."
(file "/usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin" line 778)



Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:***@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: RE: [rancid] Permissions and files

If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show running-config, do you receive any errors?

From: rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net> [mailto:rancid-discuss-***@shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Milton
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Aaron Dudek
Cc: rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get nothing in that file when I just "rancid-run".

Regards,
Ryan Milton
MVS Network Manager
o: 201-447-1505 x124
c: 862-249-5230
www.mvsusa.com<http://www.mvsusa.com/>
[MVS final logo GOOD very small]

From: Aaron Dudek [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
To: Ryan Milton
Cc: Heasley; rancid-***@shrubbery.net<mailto:rancid-***@shrubbery.net>
Subject: Re: [rancid] Permissions and files

[Aaron Dudek]

You are using the incorrect script for Juniper devices
you want jrancid/jlogin

Post by Ryan Milton
Well, here is what I get, I am assuming its due to the fact that my
equipment is Juniper:****
** **
/var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.XXX.11.1****
94.XXX.11.1****
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l ryan 94.XXX.11.1****
--- JUNOS 9.3R4.4 built 2009-08-12 04:44:38 UTC****
^****
unknown command.****
** **
** **
Error: TIMEOUT reached****
can not find channel named "exp6"****
while executing****
"send "\r""****
("foreach" body line 167)****
invoked from within****
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {****
set router [string tolower $router]****
# attempt at platform switching.****
set platform ""****
send_user ..."****
(file "/usr/lib/rancid/bin/clogin" line 778)****
** **
** **
** **
Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
www.mvsusa.com****
[image: MVS final logo GOOD very small]****
** **
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:29 PM
*To:* Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek
*Subject:* RE: [rancid] Permissions and files****
** **
If you SSH from your rancid server to the device that you are trying to
backup as the rancid user that you have configured and execute a show
running-config, do you receive any errors?****
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*On Behalf Of *Ryan Milton
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:32 PM
*To:* Aaron Dudek
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Permissions and files****
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OK, so now those permissions are fixed, I assume. That said, I still get
nothing in that file when I just “rancid-run”.****
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Regards,****
Ryan Milton****
MVS Network Manager****
o: 201-447-1505 x124****
c: 862-249-5230****
www.mvsusa.com****
[image: MVS final logo GOOD very small]****
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*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:15 PM
*To:* Ryan Milton
*Subject:* Re: [rancid] Permissions and files****
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